Breeds of Beef Cattle
Cattle are considered to have been one of the first animals domesticated by man for agricultural purposes. They were tamed to provide milk, meat and hides and for draft purposes. The exact time and place this happened is hidden in the mists of antiquity, but it is thought they were probably first domesticated in Europe and Asia about 8500 years ago.
Domesticated cattle are in the family Bovidae which includes ruminates with paired, hollow, unbranched horns that do not shed and an even number of toes. They belong to the genus Bos and the subgenera Taurine which includes the two species tarus and indicus.
Cattle are ruminants (as are sheep, goats, deer, and giraffes), which gives them a unique digestive system that allows the digestion of otherwise unuseable foods by regurgitating and rechewing them as cud. They thrive on grasses and other low quality plants built predominantly of cellulose. Cattle have one stomach that has four compartments. They are named the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. The rumen is the largest compartment and is like a fermentation tank, providing the anaerobic environment, constant temperature and pH, and constant mixing that allows microbes to break down the cellulolse. The reticulum, known as the "Honeycomb", is is the smallest compartment. The omasum's main function is to absorb water and nutrients and is known as the "Many Plies." The abomasum is most like the human stomach; this is why it is known as the "True Stomach."
All breeds of British and European cattle like Angus, Hereford, Charolais and Simmental belong to the tarus species. The humped cattle of the tropical countries like Brahman and Africander belong to the indicus species. Many contemporary breeds are the result of crossing two or more of the older breeds. Most of the new breeds originating in the United States were developed in the Southern states where the standard breeds lacked resistance to heat and insects and did not thrive on the native grasses. Other Bovidae that are so closely related to true cattle that they can interbreed include the bison, buffalo, and yak.
Purebred cattle breeds have been selectively bred over a long period of time to possess a distinctive identity in color, size, conformation, and function and have the prepotency to pass these traits to their progeny.
The world cattle population is estimated to be about 1.3 billion head, with about 30 percent in Asia, 20 percent in South America, 15 percent in Africa, 14 percent in North and Central America, and 10 percent in Europe. The 10 states in the US with the largest cattle populations are Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska, South Dakota, Montana, Kansas, Iowa, Kentucky, and Florida.
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EPD's are not the ONLY story!
by Fire Sweep Ranch (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:24:59 GMT+5)
Our feed mill weighs sacks for me just for that purpose, then I use those to calibrate. Most feed sacks from the mill weigh 51 pounds, and I always make sure I have 250 pounds to check it. I should be checking it at a higher weight, but I am too lazy to move that many sacks and if my cows are off by a few pounds, well... I could care less! Honestly, our scale is pretty darn accurate. The biggest problem we find with an error is the scale moving just slightly against the chute walls, or manure getting under it. We are constantly cleaning it and checking it (found a dead rabbit one time under it... not sure how it ever got there). When we weigh the calves we completely open the chute so nothing touches the scale (our chute has doors that swing open at the head of the chute, so we can open and clip cattle in the neck region), and the babies are stood on the scale and do not typically go anywhere since they are just hours old.
If I think it is off, I will weigh myself, since I know how much I weigh.... and find the error and fix it.
What's in your calving supplies box?
by gizmom (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:19:26 GMT+5)
I know this sounds crazy but get some of the strongest smelling perfumed powder you can find. If you have to graft a calf to a different cow dust the calf's back and the cows nose. It can actually work to get the cow to take the new calf. It won't work with all of them had one that we were about to give up we were running the cow into a chute a couple of times a day to allow the calf to nurse. The calf was hungry so it was following the old cow up the chute (they learn the drill pretty darn fast) the cow stopped on the way down the chute to pee and it went all over the calf. When we turned the cow out of the chute she took one sniff of the calf and bonded right then. Good luck, it never fails if you think you have every base covered something will happen that your not prepared for.
by 5S Cattle (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:16:24 GMT+5)
5S Cattle wrote:RanchMan90 wrote:5S Cattle wrote:Let's say 10 acres of oats.
100 lb of oats/acre at $12 a bag=$240
150 lb 13-13-13/acre at $13 a bag= $390
Let's say fuel cost to disc it up, broadcast, and drag is $100
So for $730 you'd have ten acres of good oats, if it rains. I'll give it a try next fall.
How much grazing would this provide? As in cattle number x days
I wrote a long drawn out response but it didn't work and I lost it
Short story, I have no clue. but for the cost of the liquid feed I'm runnin to supplement my be nice hay, I'll let you know next winter
But around here, (central tx) folks plant mid-late sept, and it'll last til around late spring
More peace from the peaceful.
by zirlottkim (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:16:23 GMT+5)
JMJ Farms wrote:Jogeephus wrote:You know, I was heading home last night and passed a school and the lot was full of buses preparing to take children home at 6:30 pm and I was saddened at the thought that most of the children had no one at home who cared enough to feed them supper or breakfast and I wondered what our society will look like when these children become adults and this is what they think of as normal. I was also saddened by the thought of the poor teachers who are unfairly strapped with the responsibility of trying to put moral compasses in these beautiful little apples.
Until we learn how to fix this problem I don't see why we should add more problems to society by welcoming those who think its holy to rob, murder, cheat and steal. Maybe rather than debating this we could put our heads together and try and find a solution to this social problem and in the meantime we could find a country where this islamic ideology has worked and created a utopia and then we could take notes on how to do what they have done.
My opinion on this matter is gonna be unpopular and is only my opinion. The only way to fix this problem is let people do without. When they get hungry they will go to work or starve. The problem with this approach is that some innocent children will suffer. And I have a problem with this and could never knowingly go along with children being caused to suffer or go hungry. I can't say that this is what should happen, I'm simply saying that I believe it's the only way to "fix" the problem. Kids are way sharper than a lot of folks think they are. They are learning that someone will always take care of them, no matter if they put forth an effort or not.
I.e. I have a guy that works for me. Can't pay his light bill. Can't buy his kids Christmas gifts. Gets $1300 a month in food stamps. Wife lied and got a $12000 refund on her income tax returns for 2015. He didn't file. Purposely just had his 10th child with his wife (planned, not a surprise). BUT he's got an iPhone. And so does she. And they went on vacation for a week. Eats better than me, and I'm not being facetious. And they don't worry about anything. Just pitch a sad story and hold their hand out. No shame. And his kids are the same. Because this is what they have been taught.
I love to help people who NEED help. Makes me feel good. I usually do it indiscreetly so that not even the person I'm helping knows where the money came from. Because I want no recognition for the act. That's not why I do it. But I have very little sympathy for people that bring hardship upon themselves, receive help, and then repeat the the process having learned nothing.
Enough chasing rabbits. Sorry. I just don't see things changing in regards to moral compasses until there are consequences for being lazy and sorry. You know around here, and not that many years ago, if an able bodied man wouldn't work and provide for his family, a group of local gentlemen would visit him and have a talk with him. If things didn't change after the talk, they would visit him again. The second visit would be a little more persuasive and wouldn't involve much talking. This would continue until the man got the point or left town. Pretty dang effective too because I never heard of any of these men who were beaten to death or any kids that starved to death. They just needed to be "taught".
I have said the same thing. Hunger is a pretty good motivator. You sound exactly like my wife and I. We try to give in complete confidentiality for 2 reasons. 1. We don't want recognition for helping less fortunate. 2. If certain people knew we were "giving", the phones and door bells would be steady ringing with sad stories. I hate thinking that way but it's fact. Here is a link to an article concerning the same topics talked about here. Foreign Affairs and Social issues. You have to read it all the way through.http://www.jbs.org/component/k2/item/18 ... f-fairness
Blessings or Karma
by callmefence (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:59:17 GMT+5)
Jogeephus wrote:A while back I followed the golden rule and did a good deed for someone and asked nothing in return. It was my good deed for this century. This week I was given this custom .243 as an unexpected thank you. I may name it Karma or Viper.
After an ocular bore sight I shot this four shot group. (pardon the high flyer I think I may have farted) I think its a beautiful rifle and is very sweet to shoot and pretty accurate in spite of my flatulence.
I'm pretty sure they train snipers to time the shot between farts. You might work on that
Mixing wcs and whole corn
by Caustic Burno (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:59:08 GMT+5)
TexasBred wrote:u4411clb wrote:I mix them because ground corn is cheaper $140.00 ton to $180 a ton and also just to dilute the effects that can temporarily make a bull go sterile. I know it is temporary but I don't have time to deal with a bull shooting blanks be it temporarily or not.
That's good but hopefully you also have the vet do a BSE on them before breeding sysem.Probably won't ever have a problem but I'd want to know what I had before we started.
I never had a problem with it mixing it 2-1 two parts CSM one salt as limiter test out 26 to 28% protein. Mine are used to CSM I wouldn't even think of using it without limiter.
Fence I also use a 2-1-1 mix 2 CSM 1 corn 1 salt blends to 15% protein
by Caustic Burno (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:53:46 GMT+5)
1982vett wrote:Thought about it this morning while hauling my bull to the sale. Got him unloaded and was leaving when I noticed a low flying plane banking and flying over. First thought was a crop duster but as it banked I noticed the marking on the wings... it was a close replica of a Japanese Zero. Then I realized it was part of the VFW re-enactment. Quire a moment of reflection for me.
Might have been from the Confederate Air Force out of Galveston they have quite a few restored WWII aircraft.
Have a friend I used to work with that volunteered a lot over there he would routinely fly a B-17 over the refinery.
chrome on calves
by Caustic Burno (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:48:09 GMT+5)
There are some breeds that don't play by the rules. LH,SH and Char don't read the book. What is in her woodpile ?
Latest Build Completion
by Kingfisher (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:39:21 GMT+5)
MudHog wrote:Caustic Burno wrote:Not being a smart a$$ what is the wow with 300 BLK.
No matter the weapon here in this thicket unless it's a Model 12 you are only getting one shot at these hogs.
I kill just as many with my single shot 223 as I do my mini.
300BLK is basically a 30-30 in a semi auto platform with more magazine capacity. Subsonic and suppressed, it is a very quite and a very effective 30caliber round. Eventually I will get a thermal scope for piggys at night. Suppressed, you only hear the action cycling.
I've got a lever action 30-30. What you have sounds like a heck of à weapon! I like it
Charlais x bremahn crosses
by Caustic Burno (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:33:28 GMT+5)
wacocowboy wrote:Some of the best momma cows I've ever seen. Yes they can be pretty hot especially when they got a baby. You need to know how and be set up to handle them. I love them right up there with Tigers, Brangus, and Beefmaster. Put a Char bull on them and you will be grinning from ear to ear as you drive away from the sale barn with a big fat check.
You got that right they are not rookie cattle. Better have some stout pens for the ones I dealt with. Friend had some and they could get high headed quick what I noticed when helping they got more stirred up as a group versus one or two tigers wanting to eat you.
He always had some mighty fine calves out of them. The craziest calves I ever dealt with was when he put a Limm bull on them.
New Devon Bull calf
by Rusty Faucet (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:13:21 GMT+5)
Looks like he has some real potential.
Supplementing with some form of alfalfa
by cotton1 (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:01:25 GMT+5)
Did you try it Ebby?
My limited experience with Alfalfa was last winter feeding my bulls. I'm now of the mind that if your cows are used to Fescue, then Alfalfa is a big change for them. My bulls loved to eat it, but wouldn't eat near enough grain to do them any good.From a cheap sustenance standpoint it was doing a job, the whole group only got 1/2 a small square per day in the end. The problem with it was they would only eat that. I didn't think they could get enough nutrition or stay healthy from that. Even if you have real poor hay, I would think in SC anyway that the 24% protein tubs and low/poor hay would do a better job of keeping the cows healthy.
I think the cows have to be conditioned to alfalfa hay, bottom line. Similar deal as Fescue toxicity.I dont think you can feed a cow that is not used to alfalfa enough of it to do a good job for them without bloat and other problems. My 2 cents..
Cattle Water Heater
by Leo49 (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 20:51:59 GMT+5)
The ones I have,have a float valve and overflow pipe in the tire and a cutoff valve on the outside of tire. When it starts to freeze remove float valve and turn shutoff valve down to a trickle to keep from freezing. In winter ponds you would never see the difference in water level of pond.
Sale barn bull.
by gizmom (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 20:30:51 GMT+5)
We thank you for making the trip to look at our bulls! You got you two really good ones!
EPA choice--Oklahoma AG with Ky roots
by True Grit Farms (Posted Wed, 07 Dec 2016 20:24:26 GMT+5)
This is a great pick for US. Hopefully your thread doesn't go the way mine did about Scott Pruitt. WOTUS is a big deal for the agricultural industry, and Mr Pruitt is against WOTUS.